Competition is for Losers with Peter Thiel (How to Start a Startup 2014: 5)
Key ideas
Thiel argues founders should aim for monopoly and avoid competition: start with a small market, build durable advantages, and distrust the comfort of doing what others do.
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Creating value is not capturing it
Thiel's formula is that a company is valuable if it creates X dollars of value and captures Y percent of X, and he stresses that the two are independent. He contrasts US airlines, larger than search by revenue yet, he thinks, with roughly zero cumulative profits over their history, with a far more valuable Google.
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See through stories about market size
In what he calls an extreme binary view, Thiel says businesses are either perfectly competitive or monopolies, with little in between. He says both sides lie: non-monopolies describe a tiny market they alone occupy, like the only British restaurant in Palo Alto, while monopolies describe a huge one full of rivals, as he says Google does. Asked how to tell them apart, he says to look for the actual market and not the narrative.
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Start small and expand in circles
Thiel's route to monopoly is to take over a small market and widen it in concentric circles, and he calls going after a giant market on day one a big mistake. His examples include Amazon with books and PayPal, which began with about 20,000 eBay power sellers it at first considered terrible customers. He says cleantech companies did the reverse, opening with claims about massive energy markets.
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Aim to be the last mover
Thiel lists monopoly traits: proprietary technology about ten times better than the next best thing (a rule of thumb he calls somewhat arbitrary), network effects, economies of scale and branding. He says a moment of monopoly is not enough, reporting that at PayPal in 2001 about three quarters of the calculated value came from cash flows ten or more years out. So he asks why a company will still lead 10 to 20 years from now.
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Treat competition as a psychological trap
Thiel says people are drawn to competition because it feels like validation, and that many people chasing something is often proof of insanity, not of value. He grants that competing makes you better at the thing you compete on, but argues it can cost you the bigger question of what is truly valuable.
In Peter’s words
“You have a valuable company if two things are true. Number one, that it creates X dollars of value for the world, and number two, that you capture Y percent of X.”
Peter Thiel·Competition is for Losers with Peter Thiel (How to Start a Startup 2014: 5)·Watch at 1:13(opens the original in a new tab)“How do you get to a large share of a market? You start with a really small market and you take over that whole market.”
Peter Thiel·Competition is for Losers with Peter Thiel (How to Start a Startup 2014: 5)·Watch at 13:53(opens the original in a new tab)“One of the things that we always overvalue in Silicon Valley is growth rates and we undervalue durability.”
Peter Thiel·Competition is for Losers with Peter Thiel (How to Start a Startup 2014: 5)·Watch at 24:37(opens the original in a new tab)About this entry
- Published
- Mar 22, 2017
- Channel
- Y Combinator
- Type
- Video
- Length
- 50:27
- Language
- English
- Added
- Nov 2, 2026
- Source last checked
- Nov 2, 2026
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