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Kevin Systrom at Startup School SV 2014

Key ideas

Systrom argues there is no perfect next move: act, learn enough to be dangerous, cut to what users actually do, and treat community as the one hard-to-copy asset.

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    No perfect next move

    Systrom says to drop the idea of a perfect next move, borrowing from Marines the phrase bias towards action: act on the appropriate information and risk rather than plan until it is too late. He says experiences add up, pointing to a Florence photography class whose altered prints resurfaced as Instagram filters about five years later, and to taking his lowest-paid offer so he could be around the people at Google.

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    Learn enough to be dangerous

    Systrom says he taught himself Ruby on Rails to build a Stanford classifieds site, and that a founder only needs enough skill to build an idea and show it before stronger people join. Launching from Italy, he says, meant he could see only whether people used it, not what they thought of it, and not many did. He adds that sometimes the skills you gain count for more than the idea you are working on.

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    Cut to what people love

    Systrom says Burbn's check-ins, points and badges weren't working, and that he and his co-founder saw photos were what people loved most. He says his girlfriend's remark that her photos weren't good enough to post, while a friend used filter apps, led him to build the first filter that afternoon. They cut features and went native, and he recalls about eight weeks of building and 25,000 sign-ups on the first day.

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    Be your own advocate

    Systrom says relationships built over years let him ask people to try the app and tweet about it, and warns that most people will call your idea bad because most ideas fail. He recounts being told not to approach a New York Times reporter, who then wrote about Instagram on launch day. He also credits luck, saying hard work follows being at the right place and time with the right team.

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    Community is what can't be copied

    Systrom says anyone could build a filter app, and the hard thing to build is a community, which Instagram made its first value. He says it began with designers and photographers they knew, that its first hire was a community manager rather than an engineer, and that alienating or over-monetizing users loses the soul of what you built.

In Kevin’s words

“The Marines say you can spend all the time you want, but by the time you figured it out, you're dead.”
Kevin Systrom·Kevin Systrom at Startup School SV 2014·Watch at 8:30(opens the original in a new tab)
“what people tell you and how people act are very, very different sometimes.”
Kevin Systrom·Kevin Systrom at Startup School SV 2014·Watch at 6:17(opens the original in a new tab)
“we started with a very small community of designers and photographers that were close friends that we knew that loved what we were building, and we scaled it from there.”
Kevin Systrom·Kevin Systrom at Startup School SV 2014·Watch at 25:27(opens the original in a new tab)

About this entry

Published
Oct 14, 2014
Channel
Y Combinator
Type
Video
Length
26:53
Language
English
Added
Nov 2, 2026
Source last checked
Nov 2, 2026

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