Ilya Sutskever (OpenAI Chief Scientist) — Why next-token prediction could surpass human intelligence
- Ilya SutskeverSpeaker
- Dwarkesh PatelHost
Key ideas
Sutskever argues next-token prediction might surpass human performance, names reliability as his pick if AI's economic value disappoints, and puts understanding results ahead of new ideas.
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Reliability may limit economic value
Sutskever says he really does not think disappointing real-world impact is likely, but if he had to pick one cause it would be reliability, with users still checking every answer. He grounds his thinking in self-driving, saying his Tesla looks as if it does everything while still having a long way to go on reliability.
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Compete on usefulness, not only cost
Asked whether inference will become cost-prohibitive, Sutskever reframes it: better models will cost more, and the question is how useful they are. Someone paying a lawyer $500 an hour, he says, would pay $400 for reliable advice from a neural net. On commoditization he accepts the force is real and says the answer is to keep improving models, while adding that serving costs can differ and some companies may specialize.
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OpenAI left robotics for lack of data
Sutskever defends OpenAI's decision to leave robotics, saying progress came from combining compute and data and robotics then offered no path to data. He says a path can be created now, but only by those committed to building many thousands of robots and solving physical and logistical problems that are not like software.
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Make understanding the main activity
Sutskever says coming up with whole new ideas is a modest part of the work, and that much of the time goes to understanding results and what could have caused an unexpected one. Asked about ImageNet, he calls it a new understanding of very old things. He credits his own record to trying really hard, which he adds is necessary but not sufficient.
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Prediction can go beyond imitation
Sutskever challenges the claim that next-token prediction cannot surpass people. He argues that predicting tokens well means understanding the reality that produced them, including people's thoughts and feelings. So a smart enough base network might, to a pretty decent degree, extrapolate how a hypothetical person of great insight would behave.
In Ilya’s words
“if I had to pick one and you tell me like, hey, like why didn't things work out? it would be reliability that you still have to look over the answers and double check everything”
“If it is more useful than it is expensive, then it is not prohibitive.”
“But I think the understanding part is where the real action takes place.”
About this entry
- Published
- Mar 27, 2023
- Channel
- Dwarkesh Patel
- Type
- Video
- Length
- 47:41
- Language
- English
- Added
- Nov 2, 2026
- Source last checked
- Nov 2, 2026
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