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Sam Altman in conversation with Patrick Collison

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Patrick Collison interviews Sam Altman on why coding models crossed a threshold, OpenAI as low-margin intelligence infrastructure, compute demand, founders in the AI era, and democratizing AI.

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    Models crossed a usability threshold

    Altman says the models got very good, especially for coding, around the turn of the year, and that it is hard to explain why one particular release tips people over. He expects the next big shift to be people realizing how much computer drudgery they can hand to an AI.

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    OpenAI as an intelligence utility

    Altman says he wants OpenAI to resemble Stripe: an infrastructure provider whose revenue grows with its customers, selling a kind of intelligence meter, even at low margins. He argues AI itself makes switching between providers easy, so huge margins are hard to keep.

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    Demand for cheap intelligence looks uncapped

    Altman calls the compute build-out likely the most expensive infrastructure project ever, but says demand rises faster than linearly as the price of intelligence falls. He admits he has never found a way to tell a real bubble from someone merely calling one.

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    The revenge of the idea guy

    Altman says technical talent used to be the main thing he looked for in founders, but now he wants to fund people who deeply understand their users even if they cannot code. Separately, he says the most effective AI adopters have CEOs who personally push AI into everything and are unusually permissive with data access.

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    Iterative deployment as democratization

    Altman says releasing ChatGPT broadly was OpenAI's most controversial decision, against the view that AI should be kept locked up by a small group. He sees pushing for a democratized technology that people can use and build on as his main contribution.

In Sam’s words

“Like, I would like us to be an infrastructure provider.”
Sam Altman·Sam Altman in conversation with Patrick Collison·Watch at 17:02(opens the original in a new tab)
“Now people who just really deeply understand their users and can't code at all, I like want to fund those people.”
Sam Altman·Sam Altman in conversation with Patrick Collison·Watch at 31:36(opens the original in a new tab)
“You as a business want to be on the side of hoping that AI gets smarter.”
Sam Altman·Sam Altman in conversation with Patrick Collison·Watch at 34:00(opens the original in a new tab)

About this entry

Published
May 19, 2026
Channel
Stripe
Type
Video
Length
56:31
Language
English
Added
Nov 1, 2026
Source last checked
Nov 1, 2026

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