A conversation with Bill Gates

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Gates explains how Microsoft lasted through an early bet on cheap computing, a software factory and monomaniacal focus, and why he expects AI to make intelligence essentially free.

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   Spot the shift incumbents don't get

   Gates says he and Paul Allen saw what exponential chip improvement meant while IBM and even his Harvard professor stuck to older ideas of computing. Asked why few founders in their 20s lead the industry today, he thinks it would be a lot harder now, because you would need an insight existing companies lack.

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   Build a factory for writing software

   Gates says Microsoft's concept was to write lots of software fast, with the best hiring and tools, while most rivals were single-product companies that could not move when graphics interfaces and Office came along. He says he picked Seattle over Silicon Valley partly to keep those tools from being copied, though he doubts location made a big difference.

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   Beat the incumbent on its own terms

   Competing with Lotus, Gates says he told his team to run 123's macros and superset everything instead of building a theoretically better spreadsheet. He says Microsoft kept running scared until the late 1990s, and he admits it really did have to adjust when the internet came.

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   Focus hard, then step out to think

   Gates says that from his 20s he concentrated on Microsoft alone and did not read broadly, returning to wider reading only after handing over the CEO job. He also took two weeks a year away from email to read and write strategy memos, and argues that leaving the constant stream matters even more today.

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   Expect intelligence to become abundant

   Gates argues the digital revolution made computing, storage and communication nearly free while intelligence stayed scarce, and that AI will change that, though he allows people can argue about the timing. He hopes poor countries can get AI medical and farming advice without the usual long delay, and expects labor's share of the economy to go down a lot.

In Bill’s words

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